Police Commissioner Asking For Extra 50p A Week On Council Tax

Police and Crime Commissioner Tony Hogg

Police and Crime Commissioner Tony Hogg

Islanders are being asked to consider paying an extra 50p a week to protect front-line policing in the region.

This morning, Police and Crime Commissioner Tony Hogg announced a consultation on increasing the amount added to your council tax bill, called the precept, which goes towards funding the police.

The regional police force is facing potential funding cuts of £54m and recently announced plans to close 34 police stations over the next five years.

Owners of band D classified properties in Scilly currently pay £1071 to the Town Hall and the Devon and Cornwall Police precept is £169.

The suggested 15% rise in the police precept would mean an extra £25 a year on bills. This would generate an additional £15 million annual income.

But any rise higher than the capped limit, currently 1.99%, would need to be approved in a local referendum, costing up to £2m.

Mr Hogg says a wide ranging consultation and a subsequent YouGov poll will indicate the likely success of the public vote before a final decision about proceeding is made early next year.

“I would be failing local people if I didn’t give them this opportunity to tell me directly what they feel about the future of our local police, and whether they feel strongly enough to make an extra contribution of 50p a week,” he said.

But he added that he won’t go ahead with this proposed rise unless he gets “a firm indication” that it is something people want.

Mr Hogg described the proposed cuts to spending as “disastrous” and said they could lead to the loss of 760 officers, all 360 PCSOs and 200 staff.

And he said less urgent police investigations will be under severe threat.

Mr Hogg has been battling against the Government’s proposed new funding formula, which he says disadvantages the Devon and Cornwall force by around £15 million a year.

16 Responses to Police Commissioner Asking For Extra 50p A Week On Council Tax

  1. Stuart Moore November 9, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    In all fairness this is a County issue not just an island issue and seeing as the Devon and Cornwall police are having their budget cut by £54m and this cut is being imposed by the present Tory government who are pathologically opposed to any form of public service, perhaps you’d be better off complaining to our newly elected Tory MP, Derek Thomas and venting your displeasure at his governments cuts. he can be contacted at derek.thomas.mp@parliament.uk

    Its also worth bearing in mind that all these austerity cuts could,easily be replaced if only HMG went after all the corporate tax avoiders. That would be all those company’s that make large donations to the present government.

  2. Bob Sagan November 9, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    I think everybody who voted conservative should b made to pay for the increase. Thanks for everything, no, truly, thank you. I feel so much better with a reduced deficit.

    Wait,,what? The deficit has increased? Nah, impossible, we’ve cut everything. The whole thing is a scam designed by the rich. Pay more to keep a skeleton crew of police here? No. Scrap trident and stop going to war, where’s the referendum for that?

    • Yipee Kay Yay November 10, 2015 at 12:07 am

      I think it was called a general election, evidently you lost.

      • Qwerty Man November 11, 2015 at 9:29 am

        Yes, it was a general election and over half of the country didn’t vote for the people now in charge. Evidently you think that’s ok.

        Public spending is being slashed because the government thinks we should ‘live within our means’. Well, we WERE living quite happily within our means until the bankers decided they were entitled to an income that would enable them to fund their own space programmes.

        • Yipee Kay Yay November 11, 2015 at 12:56 pm

          It is called democracy and don’t forget it was a labour government that relaxed the fiscal oversight and capital holding requirements of the financial institutions that allowed the markets to drop to the levels that they did, they thought it was smart at the time and proclaimed that they had ended “boom and bust” I have not always voted Conservative and do not hold with everything they stand for or do, however they have a real job on digging this country out of the mire and until we can afford otherwise we need to be and be seen to be targeting living within the means of the economy.

          • Stuart Moore November 11, 2015 at 4:23 pm

            The fiscal over sites were relaxed under a Tory Government, Remember Thatcher and the big bang. that was the beginning of fiscal melt down when any restraints that held the banking sector in check were removed. Blair (who was really just another Tory) just continued with the neo-liberal agenda because if he hadn’t the right wing press would have crucified him.
            As for digging this country out of the mire, we have more debt as a nation under this Tory government than we did under the last labour government.

        • Stuart Moore November 11, 2015 at 1:18 pm

          I think you’ll find only 24% of the population voted Tory, but apparently that gives them a mandate? even though the same Tory party want to impose a minimum 50% vote on union ballots for industrial action.
          Hypocrisy anyone ?

          • Yipee Kay Yay November 11, 2015 at 2:38 pm

            Yes it does because no other party achieved the required number of seats or they would be in government. The alternative would be some form of rule that had a monopoly of power irrespective of the wishes of the people and I am just about sure you wouldn’t want that.
            Can you imagine the mess the country would be in if either Mr Milliband or the absolute no hoper Mr Corbyn was at the helm, even you must see that neither has a remaining shred of credibility?

        • Frank Davis November 11, 2015 at 3:20 pm

          So what’s the alternative then anyone. No political party ever gets more than 50% of the vote. Thatchers didn’t, Blair didn’t, Churchill didn’t, Attlee didn’t. So either the party with most votes wins or we change to some form of proportional representation, both labour and conservative have had plenty of chance to change system. Only party tried to change it was Libdem and got a referendum, the result of which was to keep current system.
          I don’t like the current system but only alternative is PR and a permanent coalition.

          • Stuart Moore November 11, 2015 at 4:17 pm

            Actually the referendum was not for PR which everyone understands, instead it was for AV which no one understands.
            People did not vote for AV.
            If we had a PR system it would be much fairer as the number of MP’s would relate to the amount of votes cast.

          • P E Dant November 11, 2015 at 9:02 pm

            Surely, the number of seats would relate to the number of votes cast. If it can be counted – then it’s a number i.e. votes. if it amorphous i.e. food, then it’s an amount.

          • Frank Davis November 12, 2015 at 12:05 am

            Yes, you can have PR, I think some countries do but the price is you will never have a majority government, always a coalition. Mind you it would be fun in some ways, minor parties would have more representation, under last election results if we had PR something like 1 in 6 mps would be UKIP, we’d have less SNP I think and more Greens. We may even have monster racing loony mps if that party are still around.

  3. Footsie November 9, 2015 at 7:05 pm

    Yeah well we have to to support all the social scroungers in our society, ie people too lazy to get jobs, single parents not wanting to claim maintenance payments from former partners because it affects their tax credits, not working too many hours as this also affects tax credits. Clamp down on these wasters and we wouldn’t have to pay so much tax.

    • Stuart Moore November 9, 2015 at 10:56 pm

      Time for some none Daily Mail education
      60% of the welfare bill gets spent on old age pensions
      35% of the welfare bill gets paid on in work tax credits, or to put it another way, the state has to subsidise the low wages paid by the private sector.
      The last 5% gets spent on unemployment benefit, of which a very small minority will be spongers, and yes these people should be ashamed of themselves, however the money they cost the state is peanuts compared to all the money not being paid in tax by the large corporates like Amazon, Apple, Boots, Vodaphone etc, the list is almost endless.

      The point being that while your moaning about a few £m, these companys are swindling the British tax payer out of £bns, we all have to pay tax, but they can afford not to.
      Buts lets forget all that and go pick on some poor people.

      We are all working class (to varying degrees, most of us have to work to survive) this is called divide and rule, get the working classes fighting amongst themselves and they’ll be too busy to notice they’re being exploited by the top 1%

      And finally the Daily Mail, that bastian of patriotism is registered in Bermuda so it can avoid paying UK tax!

      • Adam Morton, St.Martins November 10, 2015 at 7:50 am

        The low wages paid by the private sector isn’t a matter of choice Stuart . We have no choice but to pay the taxes which support the public sector and our goods and services are limited to what the the public is willing to pay!
        Big companies swindling the taxpayer out of millions? What do you think keeps you in a job? Need I remind you that our private sector here is largely made up of self employed yet the average income remains a mere £13600 -hardly a profiteering private sector and certainly not in line with the 23-25k incomes we hear about from people on child /working tax credits and make it purely a matter of principal to actually go to work! However people will now see what a non coalition government looks like and maybe next time they wont be so quick to judge!

  4. Jenny November 9, 2015 at 4:42 pm

    Our society pays enough tax. Income tax, community tax, fuel tax, VAT, even on women’s very essential sanitary products, road tax, inheritance tax, property tax, tax on the interest on any any savings we may have, and the list goes on. In my view enough is enough. I will not support additional increase on our community tax, especially when this very small population supports very high cost jobs on the Isles of Scilly Council.