New Traffic Restrictions Likely Following Review

yellow lines going downNew traffic restrictions will be introduced on St Mary’s following a community consultation on driving and parking problems.

The Council wants to tidy up existing regulations, described by Cllr Steve Sims as “a hotch potch,” into a single comprehensive traffic order.

Councillors have seen an overview of the 61 responses sent in by locals. Many feature concerns over speed or lack of parking spaces.

The exercise has been undertaken to assess which regulations need changing and which new rules should be introduced following the road resurfacing and laying of enforceable yellow lines last year.

The feedback has brought many ideas for discussion.

The new Hugh Street parking restrictions mean drivers are leaving their vehicles in residential areas.

In the Little Porth and Parsons Field area it has been suggested that only residents should be able to park and one respondent wanted the green made into a car park.

Cllr Steve Sims told the meeting that the current 9am to 6pm town centre parking ban will definitely be altered to 8am to 5pm following requests from the carriers.

Additional ideas from consultees include a pedestrianised zone and one-hour parking limits on Silver Street to make life easier for shoppers.

And it’s been suggested that more signs could advise pedestrians to stick to the pavements on the main street.

There’s also been a call for parking bans on the Wesleyan Chapel side of Garrison Lane and clearer marking of the one-way street on Jerusalem Terrace.

Single-file traffic has been suggested previously and making Church Street and the Strand one-way, in opposite directions, has been put forward.

To reduce congestion on Church Street, one respondent wanted to ban parking on one side of the road, while another favoured a complete parking ban between 8am and 10pm.

It looks likely that there will be new lines on some junctions that can become dangerous when parked cars block the view.

They include the Strand near the Dairy and the entrance to Moorwell Lane and the Industrial Estate from Telegraph Road.

Similar action was also requested where the road narrows through Old Town. Locals have suggested a 20mph zone past the school, with speed bumps and even a zebra crossing.

There’s also been a request for more covered bike parks both in town and at Normandy Pool.

Traffic is increasingly becoming an issue for visitors and the report advises that this increase in the number of vehicles has a detrimental impact on the character of the island as a tourist destination.

All these ideas will be debated before binding decisions are made but Cllr Gordon Bilsborough was worried that paid-for parking had been suggested. He felt the logistics of collecting them would be “enormous.”

And Cllr Sims told members that one request for disabled spaces wasn’t actually needed because people with blue badges are able to park in restricted areas anyway.

Cllrs Colin Daly and Robert Dorrien Smith wanted to know how much the work in the traffic order review would cost the Council.

Senior Officer Craig Dryden said it was hard to say but they would do what they could ‘in house.’

Craig explained that this was “priority work” but then he added that it would be “challenging” completing the task by December.

He went on to advise members that he couldn’t guarantee it would all be done by then.



24 Responses to New Traffic Restrictions Likely Following Review

  1. Stuart Moore November 2, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    I contacted the councillors via the link kindly provided by Mr Nobbs and I was subsequently contacted by a number of councillors including Cllr Simms and the chairperson Ms Martin, and they both assure me that this is not going to happen; it was in fact just a proposal at the recent public consultation, that was rejected for all the reasons raised.
    My thanks to the councillors for their prompt response.

    • Adam Morton, St.Martins November 3, 2015 at 12:10 pm

      Unlike the handing over of the TIC & Airport (after investing millions of taxpayers money) where no proposals are made for anyone to object to! The airport mark you that provides the ONLY transport link for four to five months of the year. The TIC which has now become a part of the advertising monopoly or SSco propaganda dept known as IP!

  2. Anne October 30, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    I work shift work employed by the council so as i live up country do use a car ,often starting shifts in the afternoon and finishing late at night and often on call and living up county I often find no where to park, maybe some spaces for people like me would be very helpful

    • Freda October 31, 2015 at 7:15 pm

      Why not ask your employer to designate you a slot next to the food vendors who are paying to use the space owned by the council at the back of the Town Hall? If your role is as important as you imply how could they possibly refuse?

  3. Jonny Exile October 30, 2015 at 9:02 am

    It can only be a month or so since Steve “Shameless” Sims was hauled before Bodmin Magistrates because of the risk presented to the public by his clapped-out old bus. Yet here he is, not only still on the Council but, incredibly, lording it over a debate on traffic regulation. How anyone that’s been so totally compromised can think they have any credibility, particularly with the police, is beyond me. I’m totally at a loss to know what motivates Sims and some of the others: are they chancers after the allowance money or are they desperate for some kind of status that (unsurprisingly) has eluded them so far in life; I really don’t know. What I do know though is that they aren’t motivated by any desire (or ability) to serve the community by leading it. We deserve, and must have, so much better than this.

  4. mini moke October 29, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    ive got a complaint :
    the vehicles both personal, freight and passenger are all getting TOO BIG FOR SCILLY!
    the latest tresco shuttle bus is massive !
    coming down church road the other day there were 2 giant extra long wheelbase box vans ,one parked each side of the road causing a bottleneck.
    Then only 200m further down is one of the bigger skybus vans, a large minibus taxi , and 2 long wheelbase 4×4’s
    Then turn the corner and the rusting community bus is abandoned , then another minibus.
    why do we need such big vehicles over here ?
    people have 4×4’s that other than mounting the kerb whilst parking have never been off road !

    • Wilma & Fred October 30, 2015 at 8:13 am

      Yes but what is your complaint?
      As a civilisation we are all getting bigger so bigger backsides equals bigger buses!
      What we need is a grant to reduce the gradients of both Old Town and Telegraph hills and then we could all drive Flinstonesque vehicles which would also improve our activity levels! Bit hard on the carriers and the shuttle bus drivers though, unless they were all converted into shuffle buses for the quay run?

  5. Country Resident October 29, 2015 at 2:31 pm

    Maggie May I would support your remarks ! As we have no bus services throughout the Winter months are we mortals, who actually live out of Town, allowed to park in the large area reserved for buses ??

  6. countrydweller October 29, 2015 at 9:41 am

    Talk about big brother throwing his weight about. We have had 9am to 6pm parking outside the CO-OP for about 10 to 20 years if my memory serves me well, why has this suddenly started to cause a problem for the Carriers all of a sudden? it has worked perfectly well for all these years. Also a lot of people seem to have forgotten that originally you were able to park 24/7 in Hugh Street between the 1st October to 31st March, but the Council changed this a few years ago back when a certain person on the council had new signs made up but never had them fitted.If some people in authority over here now had lived here back in the 80s and 90s when things were a lot busier than now ,they would not believe it. If this 8 to 5 parking is brought in , it might effect the CO-OP as a lot of people do a big shop first thing in the morning purely as they can park outside the front. A little thing like this could encourage a few more people to shop on line at Tesco and Asda etc, and guess who would profit , thats right the ISSCo with their freight charges.

  7. maggiemay October 28, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    How about Cllrs Sims removing his bus, this has been parked in Church Street since his ban on driving, perhaps he should keep a low key until he has the decency to get someone to drive his bus to somewhere a little less obvious than Church Street. Other bus drivers keep their vehicles off the roads and off the main streets at the end of the season, in the meantime Cllr Sims may I suggest that you keep a lower profile on the subject of parking spaces if you wish for respect for your position as Vice Chairman of the Council to remain because for me,at the moment, is none existent.

    • Nobby Nobbs October 28, 2015 at 10:51 pm

      Ouch!
      Is this the vehicular version of the linguist?

      • Linguine October 29, 2015 at 8:24 am

        I am sure the irony of the vice chairman of council who routinely parks a big commercial vehicle in the town for extended periods telling us all how the council will change parking regulations is not lost on St Mary’s road users.
        What speaks volumes Nobby is that the gentleman didn’t consider how his involvement would be viewed by many of the electorate. The man has either no common sense or no shame.

  8. Ewart October 28, 2015 at 10:38 am

    Just for good measure how about turning Holgates green into a multi- story car park.

  9. Mr B Hill, Eastleigh October 28, 2015 at 9:59 am

    When you say the parking restrictions are going to be introduced at the request of the carriers, you mean the Steamship company, who now own the carriers.
    So working in the interests of the islands again.

  10. (Not a Golf) Buggy User October 27, 2015 at 5:51 pm

    This is a real bugbear of mine. As a mother with a pushchair, getting around parts of Hugh Town can be like running the sandwich board gauntlet and I’ve had to move one pub chalkboard that blocks the pavement almost entirely on several occasions. Alas, it’s my understanding that the body in charge of monitoring and enforcing the use of such signs is our hapless and clueless planning committee…

  11. Vaughan Ashby October 27, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    “And it’s been suggested that more signs could advise pedestrians to stick to the pavements on the main street”. As per my previous comments, get the pavements around Hugh Town resurfaced nicely like the roads and we pedestrians will happily walk on them. Until then, expect visitors to continue walking on the nice smooth roads pulling their suitcases!

  12. Mrs E Windsor October 27, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    So its ok if you live in town and can walk to the coop (even though you own a car which takes up a valuable parking space) but what about those of us who live up country?
    Where are we supposed to park?
    Why do people in town even own cars?
    I used to go to town before the 9am parking enforcement to do my shopping, but now I’ll have to do it at the other end of the day when the shelves are empty!
    Yet another crack pot scheme from a crack pot councillor.

    And while we’re on the subject of traffic, I’ll tell you what spoils my enjoyment of the islands, those bloody buggy’s, plus the one or two people (and we all know who they are) who think their driving in the fast lane of the M4

    Turn Parsons green into a car park
    Pull down the ghastly museum flats and turn the footprint into a car park
    or how about extending the quay at right angles giving a deep berth for boats other than the Scillionian, then infilling the sea from the quay and rat island to join to the existing car park at the rear of the mermaid, giving lots of parking space and the possibility of an alternative boat operator, cue dismissive comments from the monopoly provider.

    • Roger Ewe October 28, 2015 at 7:54 am

      Windsor, E, Mrs, dear Madam, why not use the Co ops free delivery service? As for other items eBay, Amazon etc. Or buy yourself a bike and trailer.

      Or why don’t we ask the council to turn the innovation centre or whatever it is called into a supermarket?

      • Mrs E Windsor October 28, 2015 at 9:57 am

        Dear Mr Ewe,
        Thank you for your suggestion, however the less my goods are handled by the coop staff, the better,
        As for the online websites you speak of, can they deliver freshly baked bread rolls?, I think not.
        Regards a bicycle and trailer, do I sound like a hippy?, what was the point of Mr Ford inventing the mass produced motor vehicle if we’re all still going to ride around like Mr Wiggins. Plus there is the bigger picture to think about in relation to the British motor manufacturing industry, Cars=jobs you know.

        However in answer to your last point, I think you may well be onto something there, after all, ample off road out of town parking, plus a bigger foot print for the store in question.

        Yours sincerely
        Liz Windsor (Mrs)

        • Roger Ewe October 29, 2015 at 9:57 am

          Dear Liz (I hope I may call you that, without causing offence),

          Why not then get a taxi then each time you need food. Make a list and you would only have to come to the co-op several times a week.

          That would help the motor industry as if everyone did that we could have more taxis.

          Alternatively get yourself a ‘blue’ badge and then you can abandon your vehicle anywhere.

          I hope my suggestion aids your concerns.

          Fondest wishes,

          • Mrs E Windsor October 29, 2015 at 12:01 pm

            Dear Subject,
            You may refer to one as marm.
            With regards to your suggestion of using a Hackney Carriage, one would not wish to lower ones self to such a common denominator.

            However, the idea of possessing a Blue badge and being able to abandon ones motor carriage at will does rather appeal.

            Yours
            E Windsor (Mrs)

    • Gerald October 30, 2015 at 8:35 am

      I’m with you on tearing down the museum EVERYTHING about the place is frankly ghastly and it truly is a blot on the landscape. I suspect that there is already a cunning plan to re-house the exhibits in the Wesleyan Chapel; though in truth most of the interesting stuff would fit in a wardrobe!

  13. P. Destrian October 26, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    Please, please do something about the congestion on the pavements too; there are blackboard, benches, vegetables, planters, bulbs, sandwich boards, et al which now litter pavements impeding safe passage.
    Signs telling people to use footpaths will be of little use when they’re struggling to avoid the advertising notices and wares for sale.