Hugh Street Vegetable Stall Moved After Confusion Over Permit

phill deason veg stall
A St Mary’s man says he’s had an apology from the Council after they warned him that he could be prosecuted for trading on Hugh Street without permission.

For 3 years, Phill Deason has been selling his locally grown vegetables two days a week outside the Corner House.

But last month, the Council wrote to warn him that they could take action if he persisted to do it.

Phill says he went to the Town Hall to show that he had a permit and produced bank records to show that he’d paid for it.

He says an officer later contacted him to apologise, but he’s now been moved to a new site at the side of the Bishop and Wolf on Silver Street.

Phil says he didn’t obstruct the traffic before, as he was around 7 feet back from the road.

The new pitch he’s been offered by the Council is so narrow he has to park over the pavement and partially on a single yellow line.

We put Phill’s concerns and questions to the Council’s press office. They wouldn’t comment but Chairman of the Licensing Committee, Mollie Peacock, says Phill’s most recent permission only ran until the end of May.

The Council won’t renew any permits to use Hugh Street as they want to clear it of all street trading.

Mollie says that’s because it is technically the highway and street trading there is problematic.

There’s also an issue over the ownership of part of the pavement where Phill had been based.

Mollie says the matter will be reviewed at the end of the season to assess the benefits. But Phill says he’d rather just go back to where he was and he claims his business is down by 30% because of his new, lower profile pitch.

19 Responses to Hugh Street Vegetable Stall Moved After Confusion Over Permit

  1. Ewart June 12, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    Perhaps this quotation should placed over desk in the Town Hall

    “Rules are for the obedience of fools and guidance of wise men”
    Douglas Bader

  2. scilly visitor June 12, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    We always thought this was a super spot for Phil central and not in anyones way.Part of the charm of Scilly is the opportunity to buy fresh fruit and veg. from peoples own gardens, which ever island you are visiting Come on Scilly council please the locals and visitors and reinstate Phil’s spot.Watch the space !!

  3. Cassie June 12, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    What a ridiculous decision. We bought some new potatoes from the stall last year when we were on holiday. Plenty of room to stop and for people to walk around us. What is all the street trading that the council are talking about? Buckets of flowers? They’ll be taking away bowls for the dogs next in case someone steps in them! Some councillors are making a laughing stock of themselves. Give Phil his pitch back!

  4. Peter Corbett June 12, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    In the Council’s defence … no, sorry I can’t think of anything!

  5. Maureen, Portishead. June 12, 2014 at 10:59 am

    We thought it was only on the mainland that councellors made crazy decisions – not to worry – in the next Christmas pantomime Phils stall will be at the top of the quay steps with visitors scrambling over and around all the veg to get to the boats and we can all have a laugh!! Thats if Maggie is still writing the scripts!

  6. Ian T. June 12, 2014 at 9:32 am

    The area outside Tideline (nee Turnstone Gifts) is the only open area in town big enough to be used without causing obstruction. Apart from its recent use, it was used by Roger and Margaret Smith who played music to raise monies for charity though there were one or two who objected to the ‘noise’..! A councilor complained that, by putting buckets of fresh flowers outside our shop, we were ‘extending our shop onto the pavement but, much to the amusement of the Chief Technical Officer of the day, we were able to show that we actually owned the narrow strip in front of the building.

  7. Very concerned islander June 12, 2014 at 8:55 am

    Name and shame who made the decisions perhaps then we will know who to vote for

  8. John June 12, 2014 at 7:53 am

    I guess the Council want to ensure the main street on St Mary’s is clear for all the traffic now the new roads are in……

  9. colin June 12, 2014 at 6:13 am

    Back in the day, as they say, Gren was trading in the High St salling ice cream from a fridge strapped to his bike, would he have been told to “on yer bike ?”.

  10. Euan Rodger June 11, 2014 at 11:09 pm

    A disgraceful decision. Only honourable course of action is to re-instate Phil’s pitch without delay. And if such a ‘problem’ why unchallenged for the past couple of years? Any complaints should be made public.

  11. Pat Hayden June 11, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    To move Phil from an excellent site, appreciated by all, to one where he is, through no fault of his own, causing a dangerous obstruction, makes no sense at all. Do we have to wait for an inevitable accident before this ludicrous decision is reversed?

  12. Pat Hicks June 11, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    Here here !! agree to all that have been said above…
    come on get your brains working properly. and use your common sense.

  13. Gordon Bilsborough June 11, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    I would like to assure Phill that, as a Councillor, I was not involved in this idiotic retrograde decision. It’s time some people lived in the real world. Perhaps they would like to bring back quill pens and inkwells to our schools; or what about motor vehicles being preceded by a man carrying a red flag? For once, words fail me!

  14. Glynne June 11, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    We all live on a tiny Island and rely on each other to survive. It would be nice if we all helped each other instead of putting hurdles in front of people. For the Islands to survive we must get away from this selfish, destructive rut that we’re in. I’ve been running my business now for 26 years and almost every day, I’ve had to put up with negativity and sometimes downright hostility from a few selfish people who seem to derive pleasure from making life for others as difficult as possible.

    • LINDY June 11, 2014 at 7:08 pm

      Glynne, Gordon, Jane
      So agree, the negativity and petty minded few that sit in the council chambers are a disgrace. Our beautiful islands are miles away from the mainland mentality where people accept these attitudes from pump up officials. We are the Isles of Scilly, unique, and delight in the service that the producers of local products offer to us.
      Thank you Phil and trust common sense will come to the fore.

  15. maggiemay June 11, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    Well said Jane Hurd – totally in agreement with your comments – as you say “bureaucracy at its worst”. Phil Deason has and does provide good local produce well and truly appreciated by the community.

  16. Allan hicks June 11, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    Traditionally farmers have parked up their tractor and trailer or lorry to sell veg opposite the Bishop & Wolf for the last 50 plus years.

  17. Jane Hurd June 11, 2014 at 11:51 am

    This is bureaucracy at its worst. Local producers, including allotment holders, have been asked by the Duchy, Islands Partnership and sections of the council to make their surplus fresh produce available for sale in order to provide a better range of fresh fruit and vegetables for locals and visitors. An excellent idea, in my opinion, and the stall run by Phill for the past 3 years has helped fulfil this aim. There was plenty of room where the stall was, with no encroachment on the road or potential traffic/pedestrian conflict. Now, the blinkered, inflexible approach by the local authority has resulted in the stall being moved to a site on a road junction where pedestrians have to step into the road to pass the stall if customers are present. This is nonsensical.

    Could someone please explain the logical reasoning behind this decision, if indeed there is one. Why should trading not take place on a site where there is enough space for it without causing an obstruction…particularly where such a good service has been provided in the past to everyone’s benefit?

    • yet another islander June 11, 2014 at 10:52 pm

      Well said Jane. Isn’t there something that says that stalls shouldn’t be near an outlet selling similar things? If I owned the new Farm Shop/deli I’d be pretty cheesed off.
      Let’s see some common sense and let Phil go back to the other side of the road.
      What’s wrong with this lot of councillors?