Children’s Services Seek Views on Carn Gwaval Transport

Health and Wellbeing Centre

Health and Wellbeing Centre

The Council’s Children’s Services team are keen to hear the views of residents about travelling to and from the Carn Gwaval campus.

Children’s Manager Joel Williams says the number of people using the site has increased massively in the last few years.

This follows the building of the new school, sports hall and Health and Wellbeing Centre, including the Memory Café and childcare facilities.

One of the conditions of planning for the school was to ensure the buildings were easily accessible by the community. And Joel says because parking is limited, they want to encourage more people to get there by bike or walking.

A Travel Plan Working Group, chaired by teacher Kevin Leeman and including site users and the police have already made a number of improvements.

More bike racks have been added and the path through Moorwell has been overlaid with concrete to make it better to use in wet weather.

But Joel says they’re now looking at the next set of improvements that can be made and they’ll use the feedback they get from the survey to formulate their plans.

He says the Nowhere car park is likely to be resurfaced during the road repair work on St Mary’s this summer.

They’ll also be rolling out the ‘Cyclewise’ training to youngsters to ensure they can ride their bikes safely and could even look at providing hi-vis equipment.

Joel’s keen to hear any other ideas that residents or visitors who’ve used the site may have. He’d also like to know if you’ve had trouble getting to the facilities.

The survey can be completed online and is available until Sunday 11th May at this site.

18 Responses to Children’s Services Seek Views on Carn Gwaval Transport

  1. Dave Hawkins May 10, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    The whole problem is the location of the Co-op. If we all agree (council, police ,residents, visitors etc etc) that the narrow road in Hugh Town is not suitable for all the traffic, why don’t we find an alternative site slightly out of the main pinch-point? Not rocket science, and there must be somewhere!

  2. Jeff Eastick May 9, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    Many thanks for the offer,yet another islander,but once we have been dropped off with our luggage(and I am not advocating walking with all our luggage), we are strictly walking everywhere, apart from using the boats.
    When self catering or bulk shopping,of course transport becomes essential but it is for the less arduous trips that this forum is suggesting walking.
    We have been visiting your beautiful Islands for over forty years, and have passed our love for them through two further generations of our family, and one of the added bonuses for us on each visit is that we are able to leave our car at Lands End airfield and explore the Islands on foot.
    Don’t get me wrong, this is not a problem confined to Scilly, but it is exacerbated by the limited space in Hugh Town. We have a similar problem within our own village when parents insist on driving their offspring to the local school, when the majority live within a reasonable walking distance, but trying to get the message across that their children would actually benefit from walking to school falls on deaf ears.

  3. Jeff Eastick May 9, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    At the risk of annoying Cassie and Mainland Visitor still further, I believe that they fail understand the raison d’etre for the existance of pages such as these. This forum is not open to comments from just locals or just visitors , but to all who have an interest in the long term future of these Islands that we all love, so that ideas can be exchanged with this aim in mind.

    • Cassie May 10, 2014 at 10:17 am

      Jeff Eastick, you haven’t annoyed me at all, I was just agreeing with Mainland Visitor! Don’t all visitors walk everywhere unless they hire a buggy or bike? I would love to bring my car for those wet and windy occasions when I have to come back from the shops laden down with bags and walk a mile back to my accommodation! I am going to start a campaign for a roll on, roll off ferry!

  4. mainland visitor May 8, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    I fail to understand why some mainlanders, one in particular does it with regular monotony, feel the need to comment on island matters which they neither understand or appreciate.
    Best for all if they refrained and left it to islanders to sort out island problems, unless it is a matter on which outsiders comments are requested.

    • Cassie May 9, 2014 at 9:05 am

      My sentiments exactly Mainland Visitor! I have made the same comment myself on this site. Us lucky visitors should stick to things which concern us on our holidays and leave local council issues to locals.

  5. yet another islander May 8, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    A very valid comment Jeff and do you not think that people living here don’t do likewise. If the missus has shopping to collect she thinks shall I carry it home or shall I use the car? What do reckon she decides to do? Yep, you’ve got it she goes for the quicker option and she drives! We’ve got a car and it would seem that you do too.
    By the way, tell us when you’re coming over again and she might give you a lift to your digs as long as you’re travelling light, the car’s pretty small.

  6. Jeff Eastick May 8, 2014 at 10:05 am

    As far as comments by Yet Another Islander , Living on the mainland is somewhat different than living on an island that , in total area , is no bigger than our village area and we walk within village rather than taking the quicker option by car. That is the point in question.
    If people think before simply getting in the car , ‘Is this journey really vital’ , everyone would be better off.

  7. yet another islander May 7, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    How many of you giving your opinions on the use of cars on the islands who live elsewhere do not own vehicles? Do you have a car Ian T. or do you walk to the shops? If you do good on ya if you don’t now’s your chance to start. Radical I know but think how great you’ll feel.

  8. Thinker May 7, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    I applaud what you do Steve, walking to school in all weathers, but it’s not possible for everyone due to differing circumstances. With that in mind, there has to be a plan for improving access to the school by road. It needn’t be a bigger car park, it might be that the school/community/LEP/Duchy/Council look to invest in something fun and eco friendly to try and decrease the number of cars on the road.

    By way of example,

    Trackless trains. Cute, safe, and would look great. Could even be used outside of school time for other uses.

    • Steven Gibson May 7, 2014 at 2:53 pm

      I agree. Road access definitely needs improving, both for the road users and also the safety of the pedestrians. My point was aimed at the previous posters who seemed to believe the solution was as simple as everyone walking.

  9. Steven Gibson May 7, 2014 at 9:11 am

    Today, like every other day, I walked with my child to school. There were just eight cars in the car park when I arrived despite rainy weather. Contrary to what many of you believe the majority of children who are able do already walk or cycle to school when the weather is fit.

  10. John Allsop May 4, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    Walk to School, how could you suggest such a thing when all that has to be done is increase the size of the car park and widen the roads leading to the School. If visitors don,t like the number of cars on the roads and “clogging” Hugh Town they can go,and are going to other places.

  11. AlexF May 4, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    The number of cars (and the results of the insanity of the various flavours of council over the years) are what has discouraged us from holidaying on Scilly after having been regular visitors for some 30 years. The cars may be a status symbol but I’m afraid to confess that the bigger the car on Scilly the louder I laughed. Ian T has it in a nutshell.

  12. Jeff Eastick May 2, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    It only takes 10 minutes to walk to Carn Gwavel via Moorwell from Hugh Town.
    WALK to school without facing traffic by Nowhere.

  13. Alec hicks May 2, 2014 at 8:19 am

    Make the car park bigger so you can get in and out ,at carn gravlal end reduce the the gradient of the road in, no children go this way at the moment,we don’t like cars but we all have them make a bit more room for them,maybe we could all have a free bike from the council like there staf do no cars at all then

    • Ian T. May 3, 2014 at 9:48 am

      Alec’s solution is a typical mainland approach – ‘bigger car parks will solve everything’. He doesn’t like cars but he owns one..?? The big question for him and so many everywhere, but especially on Scilly, is – do you NEED one..?

  14. Ian T. May 1, 2014 at 11:09 am

    How about if everybody WALKED to school? Radical I know but it’s what everybody did in the past. Result – far less traffic and fitter children.