Tour Bus Owner ‘Gutted’ At Being Banned By Golf Club

Island Rover bus at the entrance to Golf Course Lane

Island Rover bus at the entrance to Golf Course Lane


The owner of a local tour bus says he’s “gutted” that the Golf Club want to stop his passengers from taking in the view from their private lane.

Glynne Lucas received a letter yesterday from Golf Club Secretary Peter Leahy, telling him that they will no longer allow him to use the junction of Golf Course Lane, owned by the Club, to turn his bus or park, while passengers get off.

The Club has accused him of damaging the tarmac at the end of the road, which they say is now deteriorating rapidly, and also the seat on the grass verge.

They say he agreed several years ago that he should turn in the driveway of the property opposite although Glynne disputes that, saying it’s too narrow.

He’s also been told that tourists can’t walk along the lane to see the view because the Club’s insurance only covers members and paying customers. He doesn’t drive the bus up the lane itself.

Glynne says it’s “petty and selfish” and he’s disappointed they’ve done this.

He says it’s the best view on the islands and the only place people can take in the scene across to the Bishop Rock Lighthouse, now that the trees have grown too tall at Telegraph.

And people appreciate the view so much that they often say thank you to him for sharing it when they get back to the bus.

One option would be to let people stop for a coffee at the clubhouse, but there isn’t time he says, and he believes many people actually go back for lunch or dinner after seeing the views and the advertising signs for the restaurant.

Glynne says he’s at a loss to know what to do next.

We contacted the Golf Club Secretary, Peter Leahy for a comment but he declined our offer.


17 Responses to Tour Bus Owner ‘Gutted’ At Being Banned By Golf Club

  1. Jeff Eastick June 26, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Glad to see that Glynne’s problem with the Golf Club has been amicably settled, without Mr. leahy’s involvement I note. It is perhaps fortunate that Mr. Leahy was not around when De Havilland Dragon Rapides regularly landed on the Golf Club’s fairway. Now that would REALLY have upset him !

  2. Bobby Grier June 26, 2013 at 7:17 am

    Here, Here Steve Sims…

  3. John June 25, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    A magnificent view this is why tourists return to St. Marys each year. The GC is not to worried about customers I tried to book a table by phone for an evening meal on one of their open nights but no answer

  4. Neil June 25, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    Bravo for working this out!

  5. Glynne. June 25, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    Have just finished a meeting with Richard Chiverton & Dennis Milligan regarding the Golf Club lane and I would like to thank both men for their understanding and cooperation in helping reach a satisfactory and mutual conclusion to this unfortunate episode. Common sense prevailed and I now have permission to continue using the lane as before. Thank you for your support.

  6. Nobby Nobbs June 25, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    If I were Glen, I’d carry on as normal as tell the Golf Club committee to ‘Go Away!’

    One can walk ones dog across the golf course, so why can’t one drive ones bus across it?

    This just reaffirms everything I have ever thought about Golf club committees
    Big fish, tiny tiny pond

  7. Neil June 25, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Hiding behind the “insurance” claim when you are doing this to be pompous is disingenuous. We visited Scilly and want to return because it was so friendly and the people worked together. Having lived on a small island where people fought, it just tears the place down and destroys tourism and the community. I hope you can figure out how to resolve this quickly.

  8. Just a local June 25, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    Absolutely unbelievable. This is almost funny if it wasn’t so sad. No wonder the golf club is struggling. Narrow minded, short sighted are amongst a few words that I would use. They should be inviting the buses right up to the club house, not turning them away!!!!

  9. Tony June 25, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Rediculous, keep using it Glynn, what they going to do?

  10. Ritchie June 25, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Golf Clubs eh !

  11. sue may June 25, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Such a shame for owner and visitors

  12. Lucy Wilkins June 25, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    I agree, and I am sure Glynne is right that once people have seen the place there is a good chance they will return for refreshments at another time, not very intelligent thinking of the Golf Club.

  13. jenny green June 25, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Seems like a officious way to deal with a non complex problem. Where is the evidence that the tour bus is damaging the road? What efforts at addressing the perceived problem were considered before this letter was written? I expect Glynne gives free advertisement to the Golf Club on his tours, by informing his numerous customers that there is an excellent Golf Club house, where non members can enjoy an inexpensive meal and/or beverage, whilst enjoying one of the best views on the Islands. Shooting yourself in the in the foot is not always the best way to deal with a straight forward issue, unless of course, the golf club users what it to remain off limits to the masses.

  14. Barb Dwyer June 25, 2013 at 12:24 pm

    The tour buses have been using the entrance to the Golf Club for years. This break in an hour long tour gives visitors a chance to stretch their legs & take in the breathtaking views & promote visits to the islands. I was under the impression the road is owned by the council & the condition of the tarmac is no different to other parts of the roads around St Mary’s!
    As for it being a ‘private lane’ what next, signs saying ‘private road, no entrance’ or maybe a barrier for members only!

  15. Steve Sims June 25, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    I entirely agree with Glynne on this. The entrance to the Golf Club lane is the only outstanding view on St Mary’s accessible to a bus, and given that for many people a bus tour is their first introduction to the Islands the tours need to make the most of the place.

    The vista from that point, in terms of commentary, covers the Bishop, Annet (puffins), The Association, The Schiller, Star Castle, The Garrison, Buzza and more.

    There are some glaring inconsistencies in the GC’s position. It seems unlikely in the extreme that Glynne would give an undertaking to turn using John’s drive, because and not least it’s impossible. In fact the only way into the drive is by reversing into the golf club lane. It also seems unlikely that buses are damaging the area around the seat, the lane is more than wide enough to reverse into and the line would be wrong. It’s far more likely to be caused by private cars which are quite often parked there directly in front of the seat. In any case, people shouldn’t be sitting there because apparently they are not insured. In addition does this ban include tourists who use the lane who are not an Island Rover Tour, who also will presumably not be insured?

    Regarding damage to the tarmac. Clearly there will be some wear and tear, but an average of 3 turns a day throughout the year is inconsequential, given the very low speed involved. On this basis the M1 would need resurfacing every 15 minutes. Any damage will overwhelmingly be caused by private cars which are moving substantially faster and there a lot more of them.

    I really think the Golf Club should rethink this, if they have thought about it at all, because without that overlook there’s very little in terms of views to the tour and with the current state of tourism here we all need to plug the place as much as possible.

    • John June 25, 2013 at 4:35 pm

      Where’s the ‘like’ button?
      Well stated old chap.

  16. John June 25, 2013 at 10:26 am

    “petty and selfish” seems to sum it up.